Support typescript with --experimental-strip-types

[marco-ippolito]

Add this issue to keep track of the work for supporting typescript out of the box, in the PR you can find documentation etc...
The main idea is to use type-stripping.
This is achieved ideally through the use of an external dependency, in my opinion @swc/wasm-typescript.
I would like to have something basic and usable to propose to the public.

Tracking points to discuss:

• Support commonjs syntax
• SourceMaps (enabling them with a flag)
• Type stripping on .cts
• Add a flag to enable transformation to support TS only features (enums etc...)
• Extension guessing (.js because of transpilation => but at runtime is a TS)
• Transpiling .ts files in the node_modules
• TypeScript linting
• Externalize swc wasm

Roadmap: #217

[mcollina]

I have two concerns (none of them blocking):

1. Is swc on board with following our LTS? This seems a massive dependency we should not take on lightly.
2. TypeScript does not follow semver, and the language evolves relatively quickly. Is this approach stable long term? Everybody seems always to be supporting the latest version of TypeScript.

My proposal in nodejs/node#43818 was to have a strategy for doing this automatically but not vendor anything. Something along the lines of:

$ node script.ts
Typescript support is missing, install it with:
npm i --location=global typescript-node-core
$ npm i --location=global typescript-node-core
...
$ node script.ts
"Hello World"

An alternative (possibly better for long-term support):

$ node script.ts
Typescript support is missing, install it with:
npx ts-node-core

Learn about TypeScript support at: ...
$ npx ts-node-core
Detected Node.js v24.42.0
What typescript support would you like?
[ ] type stripping - swc@22
[ ] type checking - tsc@23

...Installing

$ node script.ts
"Hello World"

[marco-ippolito]

To answer to your points:

1. SWC seems to be a mature project, it is already used by Deno for our same purpose, has Apache-2 license which is fine.
   I'm using @swc/wasm, the wasm version to avoid compiling rust. We probably should ask the blessing from the maintainer @kdy1 and maybe release a version that we dont have to patch 😄
2. With typestripping we dont really care what version of typescript the user is using because we just remove it (unless there is some syntax not supported by SWC), we dont perform type checking at all. I think SWC moves quickly enough.
   Also asking the user to install a dependency is imho a suboptimal DX, users just want to be able to run node foo.ts

If this proposal is accepted we could also add hooks to customizate the transpilation, and many more things that come out of the box from swc

[kdy1]

I can configure a publish pipeline for a separate package/binary, or a Wasm publish pipeline if node.js will use SWC for this task.

[marco-ippolito]

I can configure a publish pipeline for a separate package/binary, or a Wasm publish pipeline if node.js will use SWC for this task.

If we are able to ship the initial PR with v1.6.6 for the next updates that would be amazing, thank you

[benjamingr]

+1 for all the suggestions and also +1 for @kdy1 have nothing but nice things to say about him and swc + there is prior art in other runtimes.

[GeoffreyBooth]

If what we ship is type stripping, then we’re essentially shipping experimental support for the Type Annotations proposal. Which is good! I feel like that’s what does make sense to include in Node core, and I hope that proposal graduates and V8 adds support and then we can drop our support for doing it ourselves.

In that vein, maybe a flag of --experimental-strip-types might make more sense? To clarify to users that our intended scope is not to support all of TypeScript’s syntax or features, such as paths or enums or type checking; we just strip types and that’s it, and if they want more they can register module customization hooks from a userland library. And type stripping should be stable and unlikely to change as TypeScript evolves.

[marco-ippolito]

If what we ship is type stripping, then we’re essentially shipping experimental support for the Type Annotations proposal. Which is good! I feel like that’s what does make sense to include in Node core, and I hope that proposal graduates and V8 adds support and then we can drop our support for doing it ourselves.

In that vein, maybe a flag of --experimental-strip-types might make more sense? To clarify to users that our intended scope is not to support all of TypeScript’s syntax or features, such as paths or enums or type checking; we just strip types and that’s it, and if they want more they can register module customization hooks from a userland library. And type stripping should be stable and unlikely to change as TypeScript evolves.

Not against renaming the flag, but for this very limited features that we are adding, --experimental-typescript makes more sense because we are actually only supporting .ts files, (no tsx or other flavors), but once this lands and remove the flag, we will think on how to make it customizable, and increase the number of flavor, that would be a real type-stripping

[GeoffreyBooth]

This was discussed today in the loaders meeting:

• I think there was general agreement that type stripping (but probably not more) is something that we would like to see in core, either soon or eventually.
• @joyeecheung asked that @marco-ippolito’s branch be implemented as a package similar to Undici that can be developed outside of the core release cycle and eventually merged in when it’s mature.
• To exist in core, support would need to both take advantage of being in core, such as being native; and avoid implementing features of TypeScript that may change faster than our release cycle (such as type checking, and any transforms such as enums, decorators, ESM-CJS transpilation and others).
• @legendecas will schedule a meeting with @marco-ippolito and some champions of the Type Annotations proposal to discuss collaboration and next steps toward potentially implementing that proposal in Node core.

[kdy1]

I created https://www.npmjs.com/package/@swc/wasm-typescript, which barely strips out the type.

And I wrote documentation for it at https://swc.rs/docs/references/wasm-typescript

[GeoffreyBooth]

which barely strips out the type.

How can this be used to just strip types and nothing more?

[kdy1]

See https://swc.rs/docs/references/wasm-typescript

[GeoffreyBooth]

See swc.rs/docs/references/wasm-typescript

I saw that. What settings would I use to just strip types and nothing more? No support for enums, decorators, transpiling module import/export, etc. As in, if I wanted to use this to implement the Type Annotations proposal and error on any syntax that requires transforms.